Herbert wrote:Just to clarify the discussion a little bit - the one about the Zornhau, not the one about the emoticon...
- Zornhau: done from the right shoulder, might reach out on the path
- Oberhau: done from the right shoulder, might reach out on the path
Question is: where do they end? Where is the difference? Only source we have that explicetly states something is the very late Meyer which doesn't help a lot since names have evolved a bit.
I personally use a Zornhau to denote an Oberhau that ends in the Hängen.
Everything else is an Oberhau to me.
What are your viewpoints, just to clarify.
Interesting discussion though!
That is more or less my opinion as well. Though an Oberhau would IMHO not have to start from the right shoulder to be called an Oberhau. You can start an Oberhau from almost any position, even a tail guard (Nebenhut), and end in a variety of positions. A Zornhau, on the other hand, should start from Vom Tag at the right shoulder (if you're right-handed) and end in a position that threatens the opponent with the tip (that is, if said tip isn't already buried in his skull or throat, in which case you might say he's still threatened by it).
All in my personal opinion, of course.