B. Cross wrote:We have done that zwerch many times with gear on and on full speed. .
Uhm, it's not my video, or a video of my group, but it's inspiring nonetheless. What I wanted to emphasize is that what you show does not look like the things we see in the manuscripts(and i just checked Wiktenauer, to be sure). Also if something works in sparring (especially between members of the same school) does not mean it will work in real situation, and it does not mean, it's what the masters have shown*
About, why I don't like the idea of zwerch with a stick, I'll just quote RIngeck:
[quote="Maestro Z. RIngeck]And as you spring turn your sword—with the hilt high in front of your head, so that your thumb comes under—and cut him with the short edge against his left side. So you catch his strike with your hilt and strike him in the head.[/quote]
Other manuscripts speak of using the strong of your blade and keeping the hilt in front of your head. In most cases, the enemy blade will reach the crossguard. If you have none(like in a stick) then you do not really need those fingers, do you?
*My rule of thumb is "If it does not look at least near to the thing in the manuscript, then something is wrong"