Lamellar in Norse context

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Lamellar in Norse context

Postby bigdummy » 30 Jan 2010 00:24

Does anyone know of any specific archeological finds of lames found in Scandinavia, or at Norse identified sites in the North Sea, Baltic, Flanders / Lowlands, Northern France or British Isles during the period 750 AD - 1100 AD ? Or of any Svear / Rus / Varangian sites in Russia, Ukraine or Eastern Europe during the same time period?

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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby John » 30 Jan 2010 10:00

"More than thirty lamellae (individual plates for lamellar armour) were found in Birka, Sweden, in 1877, 1934 and 1998-2000.[3] They were dated to the same approximate period as the Gjermundbu mailshirt (900-950AD)"

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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby bigdummy » 31 Jan 2010 04:20

Yeah I'm sorry I meant other than the Birka finds, I was kind of in a rush when I made the post.

I know there are some others, I've seen references to them before, but my google-fu is not up to the task of finding them now (I think they are hard to find in English)

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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby craftyfighter » 01 Feb 2010 09:08

As far as I know the only lamellae found in a Scandinavian context are the Birka finds...the rest are found in the context of turkic and steppes peoples.
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby bigdummy » 01 Feb 2010 14:31

How about Latvia, northern Poland, Saxony, Dorsteead, Finland, Normandy, Ireland, Scotland, the Hebrides, the Shetlands, Ukraine, or Russia, from within this same period?

Also ... I could have sworn I read a post somewhere with a link to some other recent local finds from somebody in Norway or Sweden but I can't track it down any more. It was a link to a Scandinavian language academic website IIRC.

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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby craftyfighter » 01 Feb 2010 15:13

There are other lamellae finds, but no others in a Scandinavian context that I am aware of. Try Norman over at Red Kaganate (http://www.redkaganate.org/), he is unusually well versed with this area.
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby admin » 01 Feb 2010 15:31

I have never heard of any from Ireland or Scotland. But armour of any sort is very rarely found in either, for this period or later. They were mostly naked running round with sticks :).
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby bigdummy » 01 Feb 2010 15:49

And blue paint, don't forget the blue paint :)
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby craftyfighter » 01 Feb 2010 16:55

bigdummy wrote:And blue paint, don't forget the blue paint :)


...and tarten kilts! :D
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby Viking From the East » 24 Mar 2010 19:01

Hi, all!
As for lamellar armour in Russia & Ukraine for the period - it is known only as separate plates finds with no whole kit preserved. In the most cases it is hard to define even to which ethnicity a found plate belongs.
It is impossible to make any conclusions of its wide existence based on these rare finds.

Lamellar armour was common in Byzantia of the period but there it was used mostly by heavy armoured cavalry which was absent in Rus.
For this area it is a feature of later period when the influence from the East grows.
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby craftyfighter » 24 Mar 2010 19:12

Viking From the East wrote:Hi, all!


Is this Beathan by any chance? Just curious.
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby Viking From the East » 24 Mar 2010 19:22

craftyfighter wrote:
Viking From the East wrote:Hi, all!


Is this Beathan by any chance? Just curious.


That's no Beathan - but I know well who he is:).
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby craftyfighter » 24 Mar 2010 20:48

Cool...just curious, and welcome to the forum :D
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby Viking From the East » 24 Mar 2010 23:26

Thanks craftyfighter :).
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby admin » 25 Mar 2010 10:11

Welcome to the forum :)
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Re: Lamellar in Norse context

Postby craftyfighter » 25 Mar 2010 11:25

Viking From the East wrote:...There is no place to hide in this world).

Very true...if you post we will notice :lol:
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