The Victorian sparring glove solution

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That's what we need please. A big padded glove or mitten, with a stiff cuff articulated to the flexible padding. The Victorians used basically the same solution as in Kendo and Naginata, but more padded for harder/tougher weapon simulators.

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[Roger N]

Here's some equipment for Swedish Military sabre fencing, 1893.






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[Alexander Pierre]

A slight modification of Kempo gloves could do the job.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/allcombatmartia ... 63_1931754

Alexander

[craftyfighter]

until someone wants to manufacture these for us...I'm afraid we may have make our own. On the upside it's not that hard to do.

[Anders Linnard]

He Roger, in the early days of GHFS we borrowed old sabre vests from the military, similar to the ones in the drawing. They were great, but lacked protection for the left arm unfortunately.

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[Roger N]

Hi Anders!
That's interesting! Did you get hold of the arms that are in the picture aswell?

The helmets are a bit interesting too, with the spring bars that protect the top and sides. Looks like you could easily get stuck with a thrust, but other than that, I bet it would help quite a bit against impact.

Some form of dual layered helmets would be nice with polearms especially.

[Anders Linnard]

Hi Anders!
That's interesting! Did you get hold of the arms that are in the picture aswell?

The helmets are a bit interesting too, with the spring bars that protect the top and sides. Looks like you could easily get stuck with a thrust, but other than that, I bet it would help quite a bit against impact.

Some form of dual layered helmets would be nice with polearms especially.

The right arm was attached to those vests. They were really thick and filled with horsehair if memory serves me right.
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[craftyfighter]

Here's some equipment for Swedish Military sabre fencing, 1893.






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that plastron reminded me of these:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-1193041306 ... 9_10818622
Ah baseball...

[admin]

I've been hunting down more pics of 'Assaults of Arms' and suchlike and it seems the normal type of fencing mask used was a bit like for La Canne - a fencing mask with a padded top, side and back cover. Those would be cheap and easy to make.

As for the Victorian type sparring gloves, I wonder if we could get an oven-glove manufacturer to produce these?

[knirirr]

I've been hunting down more pics of 'Assaults of Arms' and suchlike and it seems the normal type of fencing mask used was a bit like for La Canne - a fencing mask with a padded top, side and back cover.

Have you seen La Canne masks/covers for sale anywhere?

[craftyfighter]

As for the Victorian type sparring gloves, I wonder if we could get an oven-glove manufacturer to produce these?

Or we could get all crafty and do it our selves...and just as soon as I finish this damned dissertation I will.

[admin]

That's not a sustainable solution though. I want a piece of equipment I can call standard in SG1, and I can't make 40 pairs of gloves in my spare time.

[admin]

Have you seen La Canne masks/covers for sale anywhere?

I haven't really looked, as we find fencing masks alone sufficient at the moment. Perhaps Olivier Dupuis or even Fabrice are the people to ask.

[craftyfighter]

That's not a sustainable solution though. I want a piece of equipment I can call standard in SG1, and I can't make 40 pairs of gloves in my spare time.

very true...maybe these folks (http://www.paddedarmour.com/) might consider making them for us. They might even be able to sell them to victorian reenactors as well.

[Paul B]

That's not a sustainable solution though. I want a piece of equipment I can call standard in SG1, and I can't make 40 pairs of gloves in my spare time.

very true...maybe these folks (http://www.paddedarmour.com/) might consider making them for us. They might even be able to sell them to victorian reenactors as well.

We are already talking about a jacket. For about a year now.
Dont hold your breath

[craftyfighter]

That's not a sustainable solution though. I want a piece of equipment I can call standard in SG1, and I can't make 40 pairs of gloves in my spare time.

very true...maybe these folks (http://www.paddedarmour.com/) might consider making them for us. They might even be able to sell them to victorian reenactors as well.

We are already talking about a jacket. For about a year now.
Dont hold your breath

Oh yeah....bugger

[admin]

The most practical avenue to look at would be a Chinese or Indian manufacturer, I think. That's why I suggested the oven-glove manufacturers. There are lots of cheapo manufacturers of boxing gloves, maybe they'd look at it.

[craftyfighter]

"Gymnastics display team due to perfom 'Assault at Arms' at the Public/Town Hall (behind group) 20th April 1892 Henry Cushing"

[admin]

Nice find!
Good to see the difference in proportion between the broadsword mask and the foil masks, and the practice sabre, and singlestick, and tipped bayonet and what I think is a 'Lead Cutter' sword by Wilkinson.