Vladimir Cervenka?

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Postby Paul B » 09 Apr 2008 13:20

He is not making blunt swords anymore, only sharps
.... or I could be completely wrong.

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Postby Nikos » 09 Apr 2008 13:36

Paul B wrote:He is not making blunt swords anymore, only sharps


When did he start that? I have a blunt being made with him now.
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Postby admin » 14 Apr 2008 23:11

I just noticed this on Myarmoury... it looks, well, amazing:
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=12964
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Postby swordflasher » 15 Apr 2008 07:13

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Postby Nikos » 15 Apr 2008 08:11

admin wrote:I just noticed this on Myarmoury... it looks, well, amazing:
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=12964


What shockingly bad pictures though to try and sell such a sword, some people...
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Postby Martin Wallgren » 15 Apr 2008 09:02

The seller is from KHFS in Sweden. He´s one of the midnight brawlers from Swordfish 07. A good guy!
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Postby admin » 15 Apr 2008 09:08

swordflasher wrote:This one, Matt?

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=12957


Errrrm...
No. The one I gave a link to. :? :?
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Postby Nikos » 15 Apr 2008 09:11

Martin Wallgren wrote:The seller is from KHFS in Sweden. He´s one of the midnight brawlers from Swordfish 07. A good guy!


Never said he wasn't, I just don't understand when you are trying to sell such a high level and expensive peice what you list it with such poor pictures, from a selling point of view, doesn't take much effort to just go outside with some nice natural light and snap a few shots off, I see this all the time, and it usually devalues the product.
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Postby Martin Wallgren » 15 Apr 2008 09:18

Because he is also a lazy beerdrinking bastard.... hehehehehe
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Postby admin » 15 Apr 2008 09:23

Yeah, I agree totally with Nick - one of the photos is completely out of focus. And at that price. :shock:
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Postby Paul B » 15 Apr 2008 21:43

Nikos wrote:
Paul B wrote:He is not making blunt swords anymore, only sharps


When did he start that? I have a blunt being made with him now.


I requested a price list last week and that statement came in the reply
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Postby Magnus Hagelberg » 16 Apr 2008 00:10

could it be that there is potentialy more money in making a sharp??

or that it is more satisfying..
(nasty side of me thinks that it's cause sharps doesnt get put to as much fysikal endurance, so the cracks doesnt show up as quick.)
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Postby Nikos » 16 Apr 2008 08:06

Magnus Hagelberg wrote:could it be that there is potentialy more money in making a sharp??

or that it is more satisfying..
(nasty side of me thinks that it's cause sharps doesnt get put to as much fysikal endurance, so the cracks doesnt show up as quick.)


Indeed, I would worry about that too, and I find it highly frustrating and no very customer friendly that hes doing that, hes spent all this time building up his reputation for building both and people pay a lot of money for his kit, therefore I would expect him to make what I wanted, its not like he has to keep them in stock, he makes to order.
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Postby admin » 16 Apr 2008 09:22

I guess he gets enough orders now that he can choose what he wants to make though.
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Postby Nikos » 16 Apr 2008 09:29

admin wrote:I guess he gets enough orders now that he can choose what he wants to make though.


True he can, but its a business, not a hobby, and I don't consider that very loyal to his customer base, who are very loyal to him. I do wonder if the previous statement was true and that hes getting too many complaints about quality, because I keep hearing bad things about his medieval swords, hopefully my rapier will be ok, because at the prices he charges, if it isn't spot on, then there will be trouble.
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Postby swordflasher » 16 Apr 2008 16:32

Jirí Kronák , Mark Vickers, now Vladimir Cervenka.

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Postby Nikos » 16 Apr 2008 16:49

swordflasher wrote:Jirí Kronák , Mark Vickers, now Vladimir Cervenka.

Swordmaker's reputations' are falling left and right before you, Nikos.


To be fair I haven't and cannot comment on the quality of Cervenka's kit, not until I have recieved mine from him, but I think its a shoddy service and quite rude after so many people have bought so much off him.

Jiri Krondak? True, not happy AT ALL, and hes brushing us off now, but that will get sorted, certainly I won't be ordering from him again though, which is a shame for him, since I was going to order 3 swords from him.

Mark Vickers, well, I think hes been sloppy and lazy and not particularly helpful, but hes got a chance to regain my trust, we will see how he does.

I am deeply dissapointed in my sword acquiisitions at the moment, truly, I have no desire to rubbish any brands, I have put a huge amount of money into new swords in the last few months and been kicked in the balls back, I do hope Mark Vickers gets his act back together, as there are too few good smiths out there as it is, I don't want to lose him.
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Postby Monster Zero » 16 Apr 2008 16:55

Nikos wrote:Mark Vickers, well, I think hes been sloppy and lazy and not particularly helpful, but hes got a chance to regain my trust, we will see how he does.

I am deeply dissapointed in my sword acquiisitions at the moment, truly, I have no desire to rubbish any brands, I have put a huge amount of money into new swords in the last few months and been kicked in the balls back, I do hope Mark Vickers gets his act back together, as there are too few good smiths out there as it is, I don't want to lose him.


I don't think Mark has been sloppy or lazy at all. I have no issues with any of the swords I've purchased from him.

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Postby Nikos » 16 Apr 2008 18:27

Monster Zero wrote:
Nikos wrote:Mark Vickers, well, I think hes been sloppy and lazy and not particularly helpful, but hes got a chance to regain my trust, we will see how he does.

I am deeply dissapointed in my sword acquiisitions at the moment, truly, I have no desire to rubbish any brands, I have put a huge amount of money into new swords in the last few months and been kicked in the balls back, I do hope Mark Vickers gets his act back together, as there are too few good smiths out there as it is, I don't want to lose him.


I don't think Mark has been sloppy or lazy at all. I have no issues with any of the swords I've purchased from him.

Extremely satisfied in every way.


I didn't say he is, I said he has been, which with my two swords he has been, rushed and cut corners, I know he has made many great peices, which is why I went to him, but he supplied me with a blade he knew was soft, and the swords themselves were very poorly contructed, do you consider a sword which hilt deforms after 15 mins of use good contruction? Because I don't, and its happened with two swords bought 6 months apart, as I said, hes got another chance with me and the two swords are in his pocession right now, I pray on many levels that he sorts it out, because he is an excellent swordsmith and I want to continue buying from him, plus I sold a couple of decent swords to swap for these new ones of Mark, and if they don't work out I am going to be left with neither the two I sold or the two I bought and forced to go to Albion, which is the last resort.

Either way, its not like I am being mean and calling him all the names under the sun, I am explaining my situation, which to me its important to know how dealers deal with their customers, think how you would feel if you swords had turned up after much anticipation and were faulty and had to go back, its highly dissapointing.
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Postby swordflasher » 16 Apr 2008 18:36

Well, I was at Mark's today to pick up a sword, and as you say he is keen to remedy whatever he can. I was unable to move the quillons out of true on the sword you mentioned, but I didn't go as far as hitting it with another sword.

Personally I I've always thought it best to seek satisfaction from small businessmen before complaining about them on a public forum - the Review section here is public - because their business exists on their reputation. Otherwise they might feel they are being publicly victimised, which I am quite sure is not your intention, Nikos.
Of course if a swordmaker or any other business fails to acknowledge or remedy a problem then it's a public service to blow the whistle.

I hope you don't mind me stating my opinion about complaints and craftsmen, Nikos~ No offence intended and none taken I hope. I've always been a bit cranky on this topic since the old Sword Forum days. :oops:
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