Flagellum dei swords.

[TheDude]

Biatched even hehe, nice going.

[Kim Young]

What's worse, I get the sound, but the visuals are just a bunch of blue/pink/green flashing squiggles.

Was it good for everyone else?

Kim

[Carlos Negredo]

get the last xvid codecs.

[Herbert]

I have ordered some swords mid-february and I am still waiting for them. Punctual delivery is definitely not their strond point. I am rather aggravated by this delay.

Herbert

[admin]

You're not the only one.

[The Guardsman]

I have ordered some swords mid-february and I am still waiting for them. Punctual delivery is definitely not their strond point. I am rather aggravated by this delay.

Herbert

They(Flagellum dei) were unhappy with the way the blades turned out and are in the process of making new ones for orders placed in Feb. I was quoted end of may for mine to arrive.

[Loys]

I made some sparring with them a few days ago. They are definitely good ! They are flexible enough not to be too dangerous, but not too much (mainly next to the point). You can even work on fulen , or take incrossada with the flat (which is quite difficult with the feders).
I am very happy with them and recommand them !

[Rufino Acosta]

Hello Friends,

This is Rufino, owner of The Time Seller Company, how are you? If you have any question related to the Flagellum Dei Swords I'm here to help.

About the delivery time, we have a very great demand right now, and we're having delays, but we tried to solve them by adding a new armorer to the workshop, and it's working, in fact we're improving some aspect of the swords at this moment.

Also I want to salutate and thanks Carlos, Loys and the others about the comments about our FD's

About the comment from Wolfgang, yes, it is interesting to loose a little time to round the edges, that will prevent most of the dents. Anyway a abrasive sponge with big grain can round most of the dents, we use it here to 'shave' our blades after training.

Greetings to everyone

[admin]

Welcome to the forum Rufino.

[Rufino Acosta]

Thanks for the Welcome, Great admin Emperor of this lands

[Rufino Acosta]

Hello friends.

Something you might or might not (;)) find interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFrLiotFtTA

It is a destruction test made by Marc Gener from AEEA, and he is trying to break the Duellist blade by a extreme lunge against a wall. This test was made in order to safety the safety of the blades, and the possibility of a simmiliar situation in free sparring. The result was a success.

After that he was trying all kind of unimaginable bad things to break and he wasn't able to break it.

[Nikos]

Hello friends.

Something you might or might not (;)) find interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFrLiotFtTA

It is a destruction test made by Marc Gener from AEEA, and he is trying to break the Duellist blade by a extreme lunge against a wall. This test was made in order to safety the safety of the blades, and the possibility of a simmiliar situation in free sparring.

Sorry but I don't like the look of that at all, we have done similar things in actual sparring with Armourclass swords of a similar price and I have flexed the tip right back to the hilt and they have returned true, I would be seriously concerned about the longevity of a blade which not only doesn't return true but maintains the entire bend, IMO a blade should either be flexibile and return true, or much stiffer, depending on what people want for training. You want to look at Albion as a benchmark, their Maestro line have stiff blades but with very flexible tips/weaks, making them the best of both worlds.

We have found the hanweis to do this, but I don't mind that when they are dirt cheap.

[Rufino Acosta]

You're telling me you made that with a blade, at less than a step from a wall, and the blade returned to his original position?

or made that to a companion and he doesn't loosed a rib on the process?

Wanna see it!

Think this is a extreme test, just look how the blade is bent at the video, can you show me a picture of you making that, the same time, even forcing the blade and mantaining the pressure that long and the blade continues intact?

And most important, will that blade able to return after that stress test not hurt your companion in a simmilar situation?

[Nikos]

You're telling me you made that with a blade, at less than a step from a wall, and the blade returned to his original position?

or made that to a companion and he doesn't loosed a rib on the process?

Wanna see it!

Think this is a extreme test, just look how the blade is bent at the video, can you show me a picture of you making that, the same time, even forcing the blade and mantaining the pressure that long and the blade continues intact?

And most important, will that blade able to return after that stress test not hurt your companion in a simmilar situation?

Well as I said depends on the blade, yes, with armourclass swords I have pushed a thrust in until the hilt was just a few centimetres from the tip on the opoonents body, without causing injury, and an Albion flexs plenty enough for high power thrusting, I really don't like the idea of a blade so mild that it bends like that without returning true at all.

[Rufino Acosta]

Sorry, far from putting in doubt your knowledge, but I think you don't understand how much streght is applied in the video. Are you sure the situation was the same as depicted? It was pressing even more after the lung? or you released the strenght as soon as you encountered your partnert at centimeters of your hilt?

I think we're talking about different things my friend

As you can see Marc is forcing the blade to it's limits, it is not exactly the same you might find in free sparring.

[admin]

Nick, I think you have to bear in mind that in this video the sword is essentially being forced into a right-angle, not a gentle round arc that you are talking about. I suspect that if you tried to bend any Armour Class sword in a right angle it would snap quite spectacularly. Note that the portion of the blade which was not bent at a right-angle (ie. everything above the bend) does return to straight.
I find this video very impressive.

[admin]

Rufino - I think it would be very useful to also have a video where a thrust is delivered straight, so we can see the blade bend in a smooth arc and then return to straight. Most people will not realise from this video that the thrust is being given specifically in a way to bend the blade at just one point (like bending it round a corner).

[Nikos]

Whether its the same thing or not is not something we will ever be sure of, because I don't have videos of it happening anyway, but I would be very concerned about it continually having to be bent back out during sparring. I no longer have an armourclass longsword because I prefer slightly stiffer blades, I am happy to give these swords a chance, and I did handle some in Cordoba earlier this month, don't get me wrong, I was impressed, I was just giving my thoughts on it, I would love to put one through it paces at some point.

[admin]

Nick, I think that the bend is an artifact of it being bent against a wall, at almost a right angle. This isn't like a normal flex you'd get in a thrust against someone's body, not unless you were impaling them and then trying to push their body down a man-hole.
I'm deeply impressed that these blades can be bent at 90 degrees at such an acute point and still remain in one piece.

[Nikos]

Yeh I know, and perhaps I am being unfair, I will have to do comparative tests myself, though as I said, my longswords are now stiffer than what I used to use.