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Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2013 18:08
by Hindmost
We have a local tournament coming up and one of the minimum gear requirements is chest protectors. These from the link seem OK and are relatively cheaper than Leon Paul, PBT, Allstar etc, but does anyone here have any experience with them?

http://www.thefencingshop.co.uk/chest-p ... cat_9.html

We are looking at placing an order for several members of my club and I wouldn't want to make the mistake of buying from an unknown (or known to be crappy) vendor. Thanks!

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2013 22:05
by swahili
You might be better asking on one of the sports fencing forums, such as The Fencing Forum. Though this thread doesn't sound too promising. Of course, that's just one person's experience, and the forum does tend to favour Leon Paul over cheap Chinese kit.

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2013 10:19
by admin
They are all pretty much the same, in my experience.

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2013 10:25
by Hindmost
Thank you both for your feedback. We might place an order, assuming they should do the trick and suffice for our needs. If they are abominable I'll post an update here.

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2013 12:21
by admin
Personally I think plastrons are far more important than plastic chest protectors. The former protect from broken blades penetrating your body - it is what they are designed to do. They also protect the very vulnerable arm-pits, which chest protectors do not. Plastic chest protectors provide resistance to penetration, but are not designed to prevent penetration - in fact I have seen a blunt sword go through one.

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2013 12:58
by Hindmost
Thanks Admin. Perhaps you are right but at this point what we do know is that plastic chest protectors are mandatory gear for this particular feder tournament we are attending (HEFFAC), whereas plastrons are not. In fact plastrons are not even mentioned in the recommended gear section. To be fair, we’ve just organised a tournament ourselves and plastrons were not considered necessary there either.
Here are the tournament rules of this upcoming event (translated from Dutch):
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... nooiregels

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2013 14:29
by admin
I suspect plastrons will not be universal until someone gets stabbed in their arm-pit by a broken blade. But we have made them mandatory at FightCamp because a broken feder is certainly as dangerous as a broken epee or foil, and plastrons have long been standard in sport fencing.

Re: Advice: chest protectors from thefencingshop.co.uk?

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2013 18:35
by KevinMurakoshi
I think it's also worth pointing out that the plastic chest protectors serve different uses than plastrons.

Plastrons protect against penetration wounds, while the plastic chest protectors protect against impacts. We can debate the need for such protection, but I don't think it's fair to equate the two in terms of use.

I'd use a chest protector in saber to protect the floating ribs, sternum and solar plexus (esp in singlestick). It's not complete protection but does add something to the light fencing jacket I usually wear. At the same time, I often wear an underarm protector (plastron) to protect against penetration of my fencing jacket by a broken blade.