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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Kp » 09 May 2013 16:19

admin wrote:Very nice and they even come in Schola colours! Thanks for the recommendation - do you know the make and model name please? Buying from Sweden would probably not be economical, I'd like to see if they are available in the UK.


Biltema doesn't even have online sales so far as I can tell, but I'm probably going to visit Sweden fairly soon and could set up something for SG1 if people are interested.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby admin » 13 May 2013 10:42

Cheers for the links guys, some items of definite interest there - especially the motorcross ones in the UK that Thearos posted. I have sent the link to the Chinese company to Bryan at the Knight Shop, in case it is of interest to them.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Mearcstapa » 15 May 2013 01:51

What about these cheeky little numbers?

http://www.kmnw.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14&products_id=103

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... a snip at £27...

Knee and Shin Guards: Hard knee caps with super non-slip grip. Hard shell shin plates with dull black finish to avoid reflection. Heavy-duty reinforced foam padded nylon inner support. Inner support riveted to the shin plates for ultimate durability. Multiple adjustable nylon elastic and Velcro straps give a secure fit. Removable adjustable instep/ foot guards. Can be worn independently.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Andreas Engström » 15 May 2013 08:12

They look quite nice, but as usual it's hard to see if they protect the side of the knee far back enough, and if they have a gap there. The problem is that most of these protectors aren't really designed to protect from thin bars of metal striking the side of the knee slightly from behind. Can't imagine why. :-)

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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Oskar ter Mors » 15 May 2013 09:35

I used these for some time, but I switched to hockeyshinguards combined with kneepro's recently. The riotgear shinguards shown here are okay, but there were two things that put me off a bit. First is the fact that the shin protectors appear to be somewhat short. It slides down sometimes, creating some very uncomfortable friction with the knees. Second, the elastic velcro fitting will not allways stay in place. If you're not carefull, it will move and expose parts of your shin to very painfull hits. So in short, that's why I started using this set: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kookaburra-2012 ... shinguards and http://www.countrystore.nl/landleven/sh ... rmers.html

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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby admin » 15 May 2013 14:18

Maybe for those of us with the Brushcutters the answer is simply to augment them with something like this at the knee:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Authentic-RDX-N ... nee+guards
Or simply a wrap of blanket-like material, as recommended for wearing under the leg armour of medieval harness.

Incidentally, here is an even cheaper source for the Brushcutters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ALM-Manufacturi ... nee+guards
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Mearcstapa » 18 May 2013 20:50

Andreas Engström wrote:They look quite nice, but as usual it's hard to see if they protect the side of the knee far back enough, and if they have a gap there. The problem is that most of these protectors aren't really designed to protect from thin bars of metal striking the side of the knee slightly from behind.


What about these? They seem to be designed for motorcycle accidents:

Discussion: http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=73386

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Or these?

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.co.uk/2/6/10/9377/ITEM/Thor-Motocross-Force-Kneeguards.aspx

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Or...

Maybe we've been going about this the wrong way - would hockey shin guards like these, combined with independent kneepads, be the most comprehensive option?

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What about padded ABS poleyns?
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Alex B » 19 May 2013 12:16


I happened to have bought those recently, and got to test them for the first time yesterday. They are very protective, the floating knee cap is especially cool, and I wouldn't worry about taking an injury there. I had someone hit them pretty hard a few times, and I could feel the hit, but no pain at all. I didn't get hit in the leg during sparring though. In terms of coverage, they don't go back any further around the knee than the Bruschcutters do, but the hinges on the side do protrude quite a bit, so you'd have to get quite far behind someone to not hit the hinges. One problem I had with them was that one of them kept sliding down. The other stayed in place, so that might just be because of how I strapped it. Another problem is that they only go half way down the shin, so the lower half is unprotected.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Mearcstapa » 19 May 2013 18:22

How fortuitous - I think the side protection thing is going to be something we're going to have to solve ourselves unless we accept the hockey pad option, since the only other group who I can imagine would want or need side/rear hard protection would be riot police, who don't seem to bother with it. Does anyone use hockey pads?

More hockey pads - these seem to offer the best 'wrap around' protection:

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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Magnus Hagelberg » 21 May 2013 19:08

tried a pair of the easton ones, but to my dismay, they are not covering the "sweet" spot you wold need covered from a sabre.

Theese thor ones you showed looks realy interesting.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.co.uk/ ... uards.aspx

But what's the pricerange? guessing your in the £100 range?
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Mearcstapa » 22 May 2013 00:09

I imagine that's going to be rather more than most people would be willing to pay. For £100 I personally would want something rigid but padded, articulated, and covering the whole ankle to mid thigh area.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Stevie T » 22 May 2013 11:17

I gave up trying to find something that covered the knees properly and made my own from hardend leather.

They're a single piece that comes to just above the knee, they wrap 3/4+ of the calf from just above the ankle, and have a "wing" that extends out past the knee (inspired by C15th leg harness). I used 4mm leather with a double thickness over the outside of the calf and the "wing". Dyed in club colours it gives them quite a professional look.

For thigh protection I wear the Warrior Projekt hockey girdle, which also does a good job of covering the hips and kidneys, and takes the box/cup.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Alex B » 23 May 2013 21:12

Just saw that Comfort Fencing have developed side of knee protectors.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 007&type=3
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Mearcstapa » 24 May 2013 11:15

Excellent find - glad to see that someone who knows what they're doing has jumped on the poleyn idea!

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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby admin » 12 Jun 2013 11:38

Unfortunately though they look ridiculous and home-made.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Stevie T » 13 Jun 2013 11:51

admin wrote:Unfortunately though they look ridiculous and home-made.



Agreed, my home made ones look more professional!
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby admin » 19 Jun 2013 18:29

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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby Mearcstapa » 19 Jun 2013 23:47

The ones I have are very old-school - they have buckled leather straps, so there's no 'give' in them. I imagine velcro ones would be the same.

They also only come in brown, and are (as far as I can tell) designed for an activity where your legs are always bent so are not very comfortable to manoeuvre in.

Their impact absorption is good though.
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Re: Request for comments: shin/knee protection

Postby admin » 20 Jun 2013 18:39

On Ebay you can get them in black or brown. I wonder if they can be loosened up with a couple of cuts here and there.
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