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Postby admin » 27 Mar 2006 10:50

I put it together - I made the hilt myself and polished the blade - so it really only cost me the price of the blade, which I think I got for £34 :).
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Postby J Marwood » 28 Mar 2006 12:23

I went and played with Oz at the weekend, and with a lot of help, made a knife :)

Here it is halfway through:

http://www.20six.co.uk/pub/OddBodBGod/picture_56.jpg

And almost completed

http://www.20six.co.uk/pub/OddBodBGod/picture_57.jpg[/url]
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Postby Anders Linnard » 28 Mar 2006 12:34

J Marwood wrote:I went and played with Oz at the weekend, and with a lot of help, made a knife :)

Here it is halfway through:

http://www.20six.co.uk/pub/OddBodBGod/picture_56.jpg

And almost completed

http://www.20six.co.uk/pub/OddBodBGod/picture_57.jpg[/url]


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Postby Fab » 28 Mar 2006 12:34

can't see the pics here :(
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Postby J Marwood » 28 Mar 2006 12:38

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Postby admin » 28 Mar 2006 14:04

Sweet! And you bought another as well didn't you?
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Postby J Marwood » 28 Mar 2006 14:10

Aye - the red hilted fighter on the previous page, although Oz is still finishing it.

We put a bollock handle on the top half of my Armour Class Schiavona blade. I've stained the handle with soot & beeswax but I'm not sure I like the look. I may need to stain it more.

The next thing is to turn the bottom part of the blade into a baselard :)
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Postby Paul » 28 Mar 2006 14:42

J Marwood wrote:Bugger.

Try http://www.20six.co.uk/oddbodbgod


Ooh, nice work!

But the edge on the curved knife is on the wrong side mate. :wink:
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Postby J Marwood » 28 Mar 2006 14:44

Hahaha :)

Watch this space for pickle knives :)
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Postby Paul » 28 Mar 2006 14:50

8) 8) 8)
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Postby admin » 28 Mar 2006 15:27

On the subject of scabbards, how historically accurate is it to glue decorative elements on?
I am trying to make a scabbard for my rondel like here:
http://test.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2 ... temId=6798

at the top and bottom, above and below the chape and locket, are decorative borders, with architectural styling - I'm wonder if it would be ok to glue these to the scabbard? The original parts may have been of cast metal, but I think I'm going to use leather as this is equally as likely to be what they were made of and it lighter and easier to make.
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Postby Fab » 28 Mar 2006 15:51

They could have been cast pewter.

Or directly tooled on the leather - like I told you, it takes a bit of practice, but it is not that difficult.

Glueing is not *that* historical - at least for these parts IMO
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Postby admin » 28 Mar 2006 17:21

These decorated borders are quite common on English brasses and effigies, and they definitely stand proud of the scabbard - they're not tooled in IMO. I agree they could be metal.. but they might not be! Remember the moulded leather decoration used on shields, crests and even leather armour. They could have been gesso.
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Postby Fab » 28 Mar 2006 17:43

yes but sometimes sculpture makes details stand out more than IRL, in terms of depth.
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Postby Fab » 28 Mar 2006 18:40

Ok, more, as promised. If you don't mind.

Just finished the scabbard today :

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Unknown spring steel, clay quench. Funny the lines you can get. On the right side, the clay crumbled quickly during quench, and hence these results :

On the left side, a rather "cloudy" line :
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On the right, waves (see the secondary line, halfway between the main line adn the edge ? ) :
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Postby Cutlery Penguin » 28 Mar 2006 20:24

J Marwood wrote:I went and played with Oz at the weekend, and with a lot of help, made a knife :)


Pish tosh! A lot of help indeed.... James did almost all of the work himself, I just sat around drinking coffee occasionally saying things like...

"How's it going? Keep it up!"

In fact I helped so little I spent most of the second day practising dropkicking a rugby ball outside...
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Postby Cutlery Penguin » 28 Mar 2006 20:25

Fab wrote:Ok, more, as promised. If you don't mind.

Just finished the scabbard today :

Unknown spring steel, clay quench. Funny the lines you can get. On the right side, the clay crumbled quickly during quench, and hence these results :

On the left side, a rather "cloudy" line :

Fab


Lovely! Was it normal clay or did you mix it with something? I've found mixing in some powdered charcoal seems to help it stick...
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Postby Monster Zero » 28 Mar 2006 20:26

So you kept drop-kicking him in the head?

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Postby Fab » 28 Mar 2006 21:09

Cutlery Penguin wrote:Lovely! Was it normal clay or did you mix it with something? I've found mixing in some powdered charcoal seems to help it stick...


Some time ago I used a mix of clay and sand, or clay and grog, without powdered charcoal - charcoal is useful IMO when making lost-wax casting molds, as it helps gaz flowing out (by burning when the mold is heated, thus leaving small holes through which the gaz escapes). But now I simply use refractory cement, readily available at any DIY store (the trick was suggested by Yannick Epiard). It is a bit stickier than the clay mixes, but with a bit of experience you can do almost what you want with it :)

The blade above was quenched in brine for about 2 seconds, then in linseed oil. I don't know the exact composition of this steel, but I am quite sure a full water quench only leads to light metallic sounds. Oh yes.

BTW James : it looks sweet :) !!
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Postby caous » 29 Mar 2006 07:08

admin wrote:I put it together - I made the hilt myself and polished the blade - so it really only cost me the price of the blade, which I think I got for £34 :).


I can put it together myself too...
Do you think you could get me one?
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