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Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Sep 2012 21:54
by KeithFarrell
Laurent wrote:I have seen a video on Youtube where Keith Farrell seems to use Cricket glove, when sparring with steel Feders at Dijon 2012. Cricket gloves seem indeed to be well padded, with good joints protection.


Hello Laurent. I wear escrima gloves that have been designed in a cricket glove style; the fingers have lovely arrow shaped padded so there is no chance that sword blades will get between the blocks of padding. The down side is that there is nothing at all on the wrists, and the joint where the thumb meets the hand is completely exposes. They do the job just as well as anything else that isn't made by Sparring Gloves or Absolute Force, but I'm constantly aware of the fact that my wrist joint and thumb joint are woefully unprotected...

I have seen quite a few people wear cricket gloves, and the same problems are evident. Furthermore, most cricket gloves come with padding on only one of the thumbs, which is pretty useless for our purposes! On the whole I would advise that people stay away from cricket gloves; something like the Kali gloves from Blitz are much more useful, even if they don't hold up to powerful steel sparring.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 11 Sep 2012 12:50
by Laurent
Thank you for your responses.
Currently, I am using gloves covered with chainmail.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2012 12:36
by Mark T
Jose_Pereira wrote:These are my current fencing gloves:


Jose, which model are these? I've searched for Levior gloves, but haven't found any that look like that. Do you know where you got them from?

Cheers,

Mark

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2012 22:45
by Ben Floyd
KeithFarrell wrote:the fingers have lovely arrow shaped padded so there is no chance that sword blades will get between the blocks of padding.


Famous last words...

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 08 Dec 2012 12:54
by Ridbadalous
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else but I've just seen these on the SPES site:

http://histfenc.com/productcart/fingertips-protectors

As I'm a total beginner and don't have a valid opinion on anything yet (anything HEMA related at least ;)) I figured I'd just plonk it here and see what people reckon. Personally they just look like rubber thimbles (ok, I lied about having an opinion). Worth 10 euros though?

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2012 16:55
by Jacob_Lee
I thought I would like to share an interesting mark I got on Tuesday. Interestingly it was also my first time using the warrior lockdown gloves pictured. Hopefully it should provide some insight to the limitations (though personally it feels that there's very little to point out) of this glvoe

Although it felt like a hit directly to my glove, it has managed to pinch the skin of my little finger and cause a bloodblister. I have little recollection of what happened since it happened rather fast (thanks to my philosophy of : "Just try to reduce the amount of bruises you get later")

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It looks far worse than it feels. Currently Pinky feels perfectly fine, has full mobility and cosmetically it looks like someone stuck some grape skin onto it.

As for ideas for modifications or (as a high possibility now that I experienced it) as an excuse for my university dissertation project, perhaps it may be useful to incorporate a shell that would either distribute the forces evenly (plastic plate over foam?) or to have a structure that would allow part of the force to be directed to the handle.

For further discussion of modifications or as a possible research project, I may start a new thread on this.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2012 17:29
by admin
The edges of the index and little fingers are vulnerable with these gloves. One solution is to insert a strip of foam or something similar inside the fingers at that edge. Could be glued in place with superglue or stitched.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012 16:58
by Legebriwen
Hello!

I found these lacrosse gloves, they are really good price. Does anyone know if they will be any good for sparring?

http://www.prolaxshop.com/product_info. ... ts_id=3889

Thanks in advance for the advice

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone!

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012 17:05
by admin
I would say definitely not - they seem to be only very lightly padded for girls' lacrosse.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012 18:56
by Legebriwen
Cool thank you. :D

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012 23:43
by Joeli
admin wrote:The edges of the index and little fingers are vulnerable with these gloves. One solution is to insert a strip of foam or something similar inside the fingers at that edge. Could be glued in place with superglue or stitched.

4 mm leather from cobbler's shop, glued with epoxy to the outer edge of the glove. Series of wedges should be cut where the glove needs to bend. I have seen two HEMA groups with modifications like these.

I have also heard some exciting gossip about new HEMA gloves coming. In the mean time let me link a pic to the nicest gloves I know. Show the pic to your local master blacksmith and he will make a pair to your measures probably for few hundred quids. I understand this is only reasonable for those who use their hands for fine work to make a living. I know I can tap my keyboard with the occasional broken fingers just fine.
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Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2012 00:01
by Phil C

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2013 11:09
by admin
admin wrote:Padding is not the be-all and end-all of protective clothing. It may well be that the right choice for HEMA gloves is hard plates and very little or no padding. One of the problems with lacrosse type gloves is that they are massive and have lots of padding, yet they still don't protect the hands in all the ways that we would want.


I have recently noticed (more explicitly that before) how hugely different padding can be. Different types of foam seem to offer really really different levels of impact protection, and you cannot always tell just by thickness or squeezing it how well it will protect from sword-like impacts.

My two pennies worth is that most cheaper lacrosse gloves are actually not using the right type of foam for what we'd want - I think they have gone for comfort over protection. Experimenting with some various gloves, I am frankly amazed at how much better wool padding works compared to most modern man-made foams.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2013 11:14
by admin
admin wrote:
admin wrote:Nick just told me that these gloves are good:
http://www.uklacrosse.com/warrior-lockd ... i2740.html


Paul in SG1 has bought a pair of these and we got a look at them last night. They are really good - they have better padding, a hard plate protecting the end of the thumb and they have hard plastic plates on top of the finger padding. The edges of the index and little fingers still don't have much protection, but slightly more than the cheaper gloves.

All in all I would say these are well worth their price and a big improvment on the Tempo2 type gloves. They are not hugely bulky, but seem to give a lot more protection. The only obvious downside that I could see was that the plate for the end of the thumb can conflict a little with a sabre guard (although only a bit), but you'll be very glad to have that plate with medieval style hilts!


To revisit this - according to the gloves being used in SG1 at the moment, these still seem to be the best value decent lacrosse gloves available in the UK. However I would only recommend these for medieval weapons - the thumb protection and general bulk makes them impractical for sabre or closed hilts.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2013 11:40
by admin
I'm tempted by something like this for sabre:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Leath ... 6&sr=8-117

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2013 18:08
by Andrew Shultz
Ridbadalous wrote:Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else but I've just seen these on the SPES site:

http://histfenc.com/productcart/fingertips-protectors

As I'm a total beginner and don't have a valid opinion on anything yet (anything HEMA related at least ;)) I figured I'd just plonk it here and see what people reckon. Personally they just look like rubber thimbles (ok, I lied about having an opinion). Worth 10 euros though?


We actually used to make similar things out of leather to drop into glove fingers... they did help, so if I were making an order from SPES anyway I would throw them on and try them out. Not sure I would pay to ship them without it.

Mind you, we now use sparring gloves / af gloves mostly so clearly we decided it was not enough, but one guy still uses them as part of his seriously kitbashed hockey gloves.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2013 15:27
by Jacob_Lee
Emailed the guys over at Comfort Fencing and just received a response today with all the measurements required for their gauntlets:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/jacob_lee89/Review/Miara_zps236e234f.jpg

As a bored student I replied with:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/jacob_lee89/Review/keenbean2013_zps8cb60c18.jpg

The invoice would be ready by tomorrow and the order itself was estimated to be ready for postage by the 5th of March.

It looks like a review of their gloves will come much sooner than expected.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2013 16:03
by admin
Wow, professional and quick!

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2013 23:13
by Jacob_Lee
Comfort fencing has released a new album dedicated to the Full Heavy gloves.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.507370272659329.1073741825.448250165238007&type=1

One interesting feature on this glove is the large "palm" plates being sandwiched between some sort of inner padding, and a rubber outer sheet.

Re: Lockdown Goalie Gloves

PostPosted: 15 May 2013 00:46
by Mearcstapa
I have just bought a pair of these.

According to the sizing charts, if you're over 5'6" or so you should get the 13" gloves. These are only available in black or white from uklacrosse.com.

I bought mine from http://www.uklacrosse.com/ - comes to £66.50 with VAT and P&P - so more expensive than they first appear, but quicker to get hold of than the Sparring Gloves, which seem to be made to order.

Will update with delivery speed etc. when I have them.