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Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012 12:21
by tabiris
For all those still looking to buy gloves - I'd recommend Warrior Lockdown Goalie gloves. They do need some work, as the sides of the fingers are unprotected, as well as the gaps between the foam pads being quite large... But the mobility is near perfect, best of all gloves i've tried so far - better, i'd say than sparringglove.com gloves. The thumb is awesomely protected, with plastic and foam, as well as a guard for the front of the finger. If you're willing to spend an hour or two stitching some leather on the side and to gover the caps, these can work as gloves appropriate for feder sparring - we've actually used them for the purpose in the as-is state, and received quite a few hits with no damage to the hand. But, we didn't get any hits through the gaps, luckily...

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012 19:51
by Colin F.
Mark T wrote:
Colin F. wrote:The only addition I have made to my lacrosse gloves for sparring with the feders is to put a few finger tips in the ends for added padding.


Colin - what kind of finger tips are you using? Where did you get them from?

Cheers,

Mark T


Leather with a small amount of wool, made by a club member. I've used cricket tips before with a bit cut out but still a bit of wool in the end.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012 21:49
by admin
tabiris wrote:I'd recommend Warrior Lockdown Goalie gloves.


Thanks and they are a not unreasonable price in the UK:
http://www.uklacrosse.com/warrior-lockd ... i2740.html

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2012 00:58
by Dithyrambus
These look interesting! Sorry this is an FB link they are not up at the Purpleheart website just yet:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2012 01:51
by Michael Chidester
Those would appear to be the new glove by Absolute Fencing:

http://www.afinternationalsporting.com/ ... qn9b5p73m4

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2012 02:08
by Dithyrambus
Michael Chidester wrote:Those would appear to be the new glove by Absolute Fencing:

http://www.afinternationalsporting.com/ ... qn9b5p73m4



The very same, I was curious about the price as Purpleheart didn't include it in their post. $129.99 seems reasonable, especially compared to the cost of a broken bone.


Correction, Purpleheart just posted the same price of $129.99

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2012 11:02
by admin
That's a reasonably price for proper gloves. Assuming these are good - I'll wait for the reviews. It would be great if one of the UK companies could stock these.... Shipping them individually is going to be prohibitively expensive probably.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 13:36
by Dithyrambus
The only review by actual fencers that I have seen:

http://hemaalliance.com/discussion/view ... f=4&t=2325

One issue with the plate over the thumb which seems easily corrected, otherwise favorable.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 20:40
by scalawag
What about the real thing, metal gauntlets? does anyone use them, how do they perform?

http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/ ... 7c7472b34e

Only £95 cheaper than brine hockey gloves.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 21:16
by Paul B
scalawag wrote:What about the real thing, metal gauntlets? does anyone use them, how do they perform?

http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/ ... 7c7472b34e

Only £95 cheaper than brine hockey gloves.


Way to heavy and limiting. Why get a decent longsword, worry about the weight and balance, only to add another 1.5 kg at your hands?

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 21:40
by scalawag
Paul B wrote:
scalawag wrote:What about the real thing, metal gauntlets? does anyone use them, how do they perform?

http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/ ... 7c7472b34e

Only £95 cheaper than brine hockey gloves.


Way to heavy and limiting. Why get a decent longsword, worry about the weight and balance, only to add another 1.5 kg at your hands?


Cheers Paul.A bit more than a bag of sugar.I thought longsword was all about armoured combat? I'm new to long sword by the way.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 22:00
by Paul B
For armoured fighting at half-sword, yes steel is best, but optimal is a full harness, which costs more than 2 pairs of gloves.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2012 11:17
by admin
A bit of a misconception here – armoured longsword fighting is about full armour (and is practically all halfswording and wrestling), unarmoured longsword is no different to sabre, backsword or rapier – it’s about unarmoured civilian fighting in regular clothes (with leather gloves and a jacket at most).

Steel gauntlets can work for longsword sparring practice, so long as they are the lighter kind and well made. The problem with cheap steel gauntlets is that they tend to be either too heavy or too thin (one extreme or the other), and they practically never fit you properly because they are ‘off the shelf’ (my gauntlets cost around £300 and I still had to do various alterations to get them working properly). Therefore you can’t move properly in them and they will hurt you, both when you are hit and through chaffing. If you spend £300 minimum on a pair of gauntlets then you will get something good that you could use safely and comfortably for longsword fencing. But remember if you do this that you are wearing gauntlets for protection in a modern sport – a hit on your hands in unarmoured longsword still counts as a hit to your unarmoured hands, because no civilian is going to wander around wearing gauntlets (any more than a modern civilian goes around wearing a crash helmet).

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 11 Aug 2012 16:06
by scalawag
admin wrote:A bit of a misconception here – armoured longsword fighting is about full armour (and is practically all halfswording and wrestling), unarmoured longsword is no different to sabre, backsword or rapier – it’s about unarmoured civilian fighting in regular clothes (with leather gloves and a jacket at most).

Steel gauntlets can work for longsword sparring practice, so long as they are the lighter kind and well made. The problem with cheap steel gauntlets is that they tend to be either too heavy or too thin (one extreme or the other), and they practically never fit you properly because they are ‘off the shelf’ (my gauntlets cost around £300 and I still had to do various alterations to get them working properly). Therefore you can’t move properly in them and they will hurt you, both when you are hit and through chaffing. If you spend £300 minimum on a pair of gauntlets then you will get something good that you could use safely and comfortably for longsword fencing. But remember if you do this that you are wearing gauntlets for protection in a modern sport – a hit on your hands in unarmoured longsword still counts as a hit to your unarmoured hands, because no civilian is going to wander around wearing gauntlets (any more than a modern civilian goes around wearing a crash helmet).


More for fancy dress up. I'll keep looking.
Thank you Matt.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2012 12:35
by admin
They certainly look good and are fun for things like punching doors :D.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012 02:48
by hussard
Dithyrambus wrote:
Michael Chidester wrote:Those would appear to be the new glove by Absolute Fencing:

http://www.afinternationalsporting.com/ ... qn9b5p73m4



The very same, I was curious about the price as Purpleheart didn't include it in their post. $129.99 seems reasonable, especially compared to the cost of a broken bone.


Correction, Purpleheart just posted the same price of $129.99

Wow, they're kendo gloves (kote) with Ninja Turtle fingers. That might work out well, actually, providing they are flexible enough to use with hand reversals and grappling.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012 07:45
by Scoobing
I'm not sure I like the look of them on an aesthetic level I've no doubt they'd do what their supposed to but they look like cloven hooves to me yes I'm possibly being overly critical about that but I think I'd still prefer something that has fingers in it

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Sep 2012 18:32
by Laurent
I have seen a video on Youtube where Keith Farrell seems to use Cricket glove, when sparring with steel Feders at Dijon 2012. Cricket gloves seem indeed to be well padded, with good joints protection.
I also see at the beginning of this topic, Field Hockey gloves were considered. Some new models have come out since that time. On photos, they seem rather well padded too.
I have not seen any of these for real, only photos and descriptions on merchants and manufacturers websites.
They do look fine, but they must have weaknesses as they are less reviewed than Lacrosse gloves, do they ?

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Sep 2012 19:30
by Alex B
The problem with cricket type gloves is while they have good levels of hand protection, their wrist protection is non existant.

Re: Gloves for sparring

PostPosted: 09 Sep 2012 21:46
by Scoobing
I've recently got a pair of Kali gloves for sparring and while they are not perfect the do offer good protection all over including your wrist with no loss of flexibility that I've noticed so far