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Postby Fab » 15 Jun 2007 19:20

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Postby archangel » 15 Jun 2007 20:30

The book looks fantastic but and I would buy it but the postage is as much as the book, thats just ay light robbery, I will try and get on Amazon later in the year.
but thanks for the heads up
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Re: Fiore Book

Postby Brewerkel » 15 Jun 2007 20:31



Knowing the guy, I think its poignantly appropriate that the acronym for the book's title is SITH :!:

Look he's paid a big chunk of money to publish the Getty images, has had years to study working manuscripts from a leading Fiore researcher and practically owns a market for this type of book.

How bad can it be if more people start paying attention to Flos Duellatorum? Even if most of them will never do anything more than talk about it because the material doesn't lend itself to re-enactment or SCA combat rules? I have to say its a good thing, all considered.

Still, I'll wait for the movie. :roll:
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Postby archangel » 15 Jun 2007 22:31

The book is well worth the money the postage is not.
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Postby J. F. McBrayer » 16 Jun 2007 11:17

Wow, there's a tremendous amount of photography and color artwork in this book. I assume it's the overseas shipping that's so egregious? The US shipping is reasonable.

Maybe someone ought to contact them about cheaper overseas shipping options? I bought the Colin Richards abrazare interpretation, and the shipping from Germany to the US was not excessively expensive at all.
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Postby admin » 16 Jun 2007 11:20

I wonder whose translation is he using? Bob Charron's?
It would have been nice to see in his acknowledgements a reference to the Exiles and ourselves for putting the translation online.. (especially as our translations are mentioned on his group's website).
I think it looks cool, though maybe a bit manic in its layout.
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Postby Greg Mele » 25 Jul 2007 19:20

The book looks a lot like a kid's "Eyewitness Guide" book, or an RPG book. It's pretty, but a little self-indulgent to publish full color and charge $50 for a 255 pp book.

Kel, Brian has access to a transcription and old translation by Bob, and is apparently pretty chummy with Max Malipiero these days, so I don't know exactly where the translations come from. I've heard he's studying Italian, but no idea how long he has been at it. As to it promoting interest - yeah, that's a good thing. How good will the material be, beats me.
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Postby the_last_alive » 25 Jul 2007 19:25

archangel wrote:The book looks fantastic but and I would buy it but the postage is as much as the book, thats just ay light robbery, I will try and get on Amazon later in the year.
but thanks for the heads up
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Postby Monster Zero » 17 Oct 2007 22:11

I bought the book from Amazon, will post a review later.
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Postby jim » 18 Oct 2007 16:26

Weve done a reseller deal with chivalry bookshelf, and have a whole stack of their books, including this one, on their way to us.
So if the postage cost from the US is a problem, assuming we still have a postal service in the UK well be able to send them out a lot cheaper.
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Postby Jeffrey Hull » 19 Oct 2007 20:03

Fab wants thoughts:

Hopefully Price put more effort into his own book than he a Muhlberger put into poor Preto's book.
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Postby Monster Zero » 19 Oct 2007 20:17

I've gone through like 12 pages and have yet to get to his interpretation of Fiore...

Lots of thank you's , introduction, about the author, etc...

Photographs are beautiful though!

Does look like it gets better later on though...
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Postby Jeffrey Hull » 21 Oct 2007 16:56

ME, MZ, Fab

Further review of SITH is awaited. Please let us know what you think.

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Postby admin » 22 Oct 2007 11:20

Jeffrey Hull wrote:ME, MZ, Fab

Further review of SITH is awaited. Please let us know what you think.

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I'm afraid I have no intention to buy it.
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Postby Monster Zero » 22 Oct 2007 16:52

Matclarke wrote:A few reviews here:

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=83971


I have to say that as much as I hate SFI, these reviews are dead on accurate.

It does have a lot of goos stuff, in it, but it's really bogged down and hidden inside of his SSG and self promotional stuff.

It's a shame as I had hoped to use this as a tool to better understand the various terms and stuff in preperation for my eventual visit to Schola.

It will help a bit with that, but I feel that the book could have been considerably better, especially with all the color photography.

As it is, it just comes across as not being as good as it could have been.
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Postby Jeffrey Hull » 22 Oct 2007 17:02

Matt, I think I understand now why you shall refrain from purchase of SITH.

Apparently Price put no more effort into his book than into poor Preto's book after all. We witness that even Price's buddies hate the thing.

Ah yes. Well well well.
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Postby Monster Zero » 22 Oct 2007 17:04

I have to say that his whole belt ranking thing really stinks of Bullshido...
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Postby Roadcone » 22 Oct 2007 21:06

I ordered myself one from amazon, with the intention of ripping out the useful pages and putting them in a binder.
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Postby Roadcone » 14 Dec 2007 02:54

Received the book last week, and although it seems that 2/3rds of it are pointless "buy from this organisation" adverts, the actual useful pages are pretty well portrayed and (once you get used to the slightly odd layout) easy to follow.

Overall probably not worth getting it if you're in Europe, as the postage is appallingly high (but with £1 converting to about $450 it's less expensive than you think), but if you're looking for a training manual that won't look out of place on a coffee table, then this fits the bill.
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