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Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Gary Piano » 12 Sep 2012 03:34

I realise this may sound a little weird, but does anyone know where Alfred Hutton is buried?.

The reason I ask is that if it was not for Hutton’s book Cold Steel, which I came across by pure chance I would not have spent the last 5 years studying the wonderful world of Hema, and being the sentimental sort I thought it would be nice to make a little pilgrimage to Hutton’s grave and leave a flower or two as a way of saying thanks. Overly sentimental I know, and probably weird to boot :?

Having done a little research I have yet to find any info on where Hutton was buried and was hoping someone here might know. All the info I have found on Hutton's life is listed below in a time line format. I have tried to get his army records but sadly very little was recorded or survived, only what is listed below and the fact that he was not included in the China medal list of 1860 and served in India.

1787 – Birth of Hutton’s Father Henry William Hutton

1839 – Alfred Hutton born in Beverley Yorkshire

1841 – Living with his parents in Beverley

1846 – Alfred’s older brother dies, buried in Beverly Cathedral

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Here lies the remains of HENRY JOHN HUTTON,
The beloved Son of
HENRY WILLIAM and MARIANNE HUTTON
Formerly CAPTAIN in her Majestys 34 Regiment
He was born at SHERWOOD HALL in
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
1 July 1814
and died at
Clifton near Bristol
the 24 October 1846

1848 – Alfreds Father Dies

1851 – Attending Blackheath Proprietary School (Lewisham, Kent)

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1857 – Leaves Oxford University College Aged 18

1859 – (31st May) Purchases the rank of Cornet in the 79th Highlanders (I think it’s the Highlanders)

1862 – (14th Jan) Promoted to lieutenant

1864 – Joins the 7th Hussars

1868 – Leaves the army as a Capt of the Kings Dragoon Guards

Here are two photos of Hutton, the first (in civilian clothing) is undated, the second in uniform was taken in Dublin 1871 (if this date is correct it contradicts 1868 as the date he left the army.

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1868 – Hutton and others close a company called the “Rock Winning Company”

1879 - Chairman & Treasurer of CENTRAL LONDON THROAT AND EAR HOSPITAL, 330 and 332, Gray’s-inn-road (London)

1891 - Staying at Grand Hotel Bath (Stall Street)

1901 - Staying at Grand Hotel Eastbourne

1910 - (18th Dec) Dies aged 71-72 in Westminster London (His address was 76 Jermyn St Middlesex)

Hutton’s estate at the time of his death was worth £15586, a lot of money in 1910, his estate was divided up between an Evelyn Everard Brinkly and interestingly Colonel Cyril Matthey (the first guy to bring old George Silver out of the shadows of history.

Below is the only reference I can find to Hutton’s death appearing in the newspapers of the time its from the "Northern Star" an Aussie paper of all things. I thought the major London papers of 1910 might have mentioned Hutton's death and maybe a line or two about his funeral. Sadly nothing has showed up.

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Re: Alfred Huttons Grave

Postby admin » 12 Sep 2012 08:40

Gary, this is awesome and an endeavour I'd like to join!

The 79th are the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders.. but Cornet is a cavalry rank. I have checked Hart's annual army list for 1862 and Alfred Hutton is indeed there, listed as Ensign (the infantry version of a Cornet), indeed having enlisted on 31st May 1859.

Amusingly, the paymaster in the 79th at the time was called 'David Cvnt'... with the 'v' being a 'u'. :lol:

I'll have a look at the newspapers I have access to.
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby admin » 12 Sep 2012 09:36

From the Bath Chronicle of 22 December 1910:
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby admin » 12 Sep 2012 10:00

Alfred Hutton's brother, Everard Hutton (who was a Captain in the 4th Queen's Own Light Dragoons at the Charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava), died in 1896 and was buried here (with all his family, including Alfred, in attendance):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locksbrook_Cemetery

There are other Huttons there. I think there is a good chance that Aflred is there.
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Gary Piano » 12 Sep 2012 16:44

Welcome on-board the quest :D

Matt, thanks for the new info, that Bath cemetery looks like a very strong lead, the fact that the local Bath newspaper recorded Huttons death could be a sign that Huttons funeral had taken place there, bringing his death to attention of the local press. I'm lucky, I work for a hotel chain so I can get cheap digs in Bath, may have to go for a journey down there.

The other leads I was going to look into are;

Hutton’s mother Marianne left Beverley and settled into a rented property in Marylebone, she had set aside a room in the house for one of her youngest sons, either Alfred or Everard. If it was Alfred this would likely mean he was close to his mother and thus find her grave and Alfred’s could be close by. Although when she died she left her estate to Alfred’s sister also called Marianne and Everard.

This sister spent her last years living at the grand country estate of Moreton Hall Congleton, Cheshire, dying in 1908 (Incidentally, I think Alfred was the last surviving member of his direct family), his sister left him £19087 in her will. As she was a spinster her link to Moreton Hall was not through marriage so the link could be shared with Alfred. I believe she was buried in the family crypt of Moreton Hall, could Alfred also be there.

Of course if I got a copy of Hutton’s will, I suspect (being the last of his direct family) he would have left instructions for his funeral that Col Matthey could put into place.

The Bath cemetery shall be my first port of call, thanks again for that tit bit.

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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Tony Wolf » 23 Sep 2012 21:53

Gentlemen,

Captain Hutton was buried in Astbury Churchyard, Cheshire. A memorial tablet was unveiled by his nephew, Lieutenant-General Sir Edward Hutton, on October 8th, 1911.
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Tony Wolf » 23 Sep 2012 21:59

... and I would encourage anyone who feels a sentimental attachment to the early pioneers of HEMA to visit their graves. Several years ago, while producing the documentary "Bartitsu: the Lost Martial Art of Sherlock Holmes", I visited the grave of Bartitsu founder E.W. Barton-Wright in Kingston Cemetery, near London. Because Barton-Wright had no money when he died, he was buried in a communal "pauper's grave", after the custom of the time; it was a sobering experience to visit the site and leave a small bouquet at the base of a tree that now grows there.
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Tony Wolf » 23 Sep 2012 22:04

... and finally, Gary, you might be interested to read my book "Ancient Swordplay: the Revival of Elizabethan fencing in Victorian London", which goes into some detail re. Hutton's life and career(s).

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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby admin » 24 Sep 2012 13:32

Tony Wolf wrote:Captain Hutton was buried in Astbury Churchyard, Cheshire. A memorial tablet was unveiled by his nephew, Lieutenant-General Sir Edward Hutton, on October 8th, 1911.


Ta-da! Thanks Tony :)
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby the_last_alive » 24 Sep 2012 17:25

Tony Wolf wrote:... and finally, Gary, you might be interested to read my book "Ancient Swordplay: the Revival of Elizabethan fencing in Victorian London", which goes into some detail of Hutton's life and career(s).

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I've literally just finished this and can recommend it. An excellent book.
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Gary Piano » 24 Sep 2012 17:54

Thanks for the info Tony, all being well I will journey to Astbury very soon.

I had a strong hunch that Moreton Hall was the key to finding Hutton’s grave, the Hall is only 6mins away from Astbury.

Your book is already on my “books to buy” list. :D

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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Colin F. » 24 Sep 2012 20:40

Will have to pop down there when I visit the elders in a few weeks.
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby admin » 24 Sep 2012 22:13

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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby Colin F. » 25 Sep 2012 11:41

Will do :)
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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 25 Sep 2012 19:40

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Taken by William Ball, M.A., Churchwarden & Secretary of the Parochial Church Council of St Mary, Astbury
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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 25 Sep 2012 19:51

According to Mr Ball this memorial tablet is in the chancel of St Mary's Church. Captain Hutton's grave in the churchyard is covered by grass. When Mr Ball has the chance - the weather is too bad at the moment - he will uncover it, photograph the inscription and send us a copy.

The inscription reads:
"OA 392 - In Affectionate Memory of / ALFRED HUTTON late King's Dragoon Guards & Last Surviving Son of HENRY WILLIAM HUTTON of Beverley / Hold thou Thy Cross Before My Closing Eyes / Born March 10th 1839. Died December 18th 1910, Aged 71 Years."
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Postby Tony Wolf » 25 Sep 2012 20:41

Ulrich von L...n wrote:According to Mr Ball this memorial tablet is in the chancel of St Mary's Church. Captain Hutton's grave in the churchyard is covered by grass. When Mr Ball has the chance - the weather is too bad at the moment - he will uncover it, photograph the inscription and send us a copy.

The inscription reads:
"OA 392 - In Affectionate Memory of / ALFRED HUTTON late King's Dragoon Guards & Last Surviving Son of HENRY WILLIAM HUTTON of Beverley / Hold thou Thy Cross Before My Closing Eyes / Born March 10th 1839. Died December 18th 1910, Aged 71 Years."


That's very decent of Mr. Ball.

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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby admin » 26 Sep 2012 08:02

Sterling work chaps!
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Re: Alfred Hutton's Grave

Postby M.Hampel » 26 Sep 2012 08:09

Great work, Gary. I will do the pilgrimage too, it's a wish of mine as well.
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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 27 Sep 2012 06:08

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The organ (covered to protect it from the church's resident bats!) with vestry beyond. Hutton's memorial tablet is marked with a white line. The pictures are from:
http://astburychurch.org.uk/our-galleri ... &gallery=7

It is nice to know that the tablet is located within a liturgically sacred place.
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