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padded Hema swords and head protection

PostPosted: 13 Sep 2019 10:28
by swordflasher
I've recently bought a few padded training swords for absolute beginners as PART of a more rounded training approach. https://www.theknightshop.com/training-broadsword

For those that have used such padded swords, would a boxing helmet such as this be good enough head protection - for safety and insurance purposes? Fencing masks damage the padded swords, apparently.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/3XSports-Synth ... th=1&psc=1

They are for kids aged 16 +. Any thoughts?

PostPosted: 19 Sep 2019 12:23
by Ulrich von L...n
Here in Hungary a lot of people (HEMA, reenactors etc) are using GoNoW sabres and broadswords.

It is unlikely that a regular fencing mask could seriously damage the plastic cover. Anyway you could easily replace that outer layer with a more sturdy textile variant. For example denim material on similar padded sabres can withstand at least one year of regular usage.

Re: padded Hema swords and head protection

PostPosted: 19 Sep 2019 12:30
by swordflasher
Thanks Ulrich, that's very helpful!

PostPosted: 20 Sep 2019 14:24
by Ulrich von L...n
You are welcome!

In addition I posted your question at our Hungarian forum.

Two reliable guys have responded. One - from Ars Ensis - has been using his GoNow longsword for almost two years on weekly basis, with regular fencing masks. No serious damage, but one should regularly check the plastic outer layer. If you find a small damage, try to fix it ASAP.

The other guy is a sabreur, so they are using GoNow sabres. Also without problems.

Re: padded Hema swords and head protection

PostPosted: 27 Sep 2019 05:34
by Thearos
Those padded swords rip not just from masks but also just from resting on rough ground

PostPosted: 05 Oct 2019 15:44
by Ulrich von L...n
Thearos wrote:...but also just from resting on rough ground

I'm really surprised to read that.

We have been using padded swords - straight ones and sabres - since 2013. In order to damage the outer layer, the inner padding, you have put those swords on sharp stones and deliberately trumple on them. We - and several other Hungarian groups (hundreds of people) - are using them with great satisfaction, due to cheapness, reliability and because they are practically indestructable (the inner plastic tube & the metal parts of the hilt).

Different versions of locally manufactered padded sabres:

BSZ-5M (2019, at the university's library during European Researcher's Night)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J43SmcKzUkE/ ... _own_2.jpg

BSZ-4 (2017, at a local competition)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-olyslssiseY/ ... Bors_2.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vK27lfDuI8w/ ... Bors_1.jpg

P.S.:
BSZ means baranta sabre.