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Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 04 Feb 2017 09:26
by Lidsman
So where is mr Easton, I ask myself, we need your wisdom good sir.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 04 Feb 2017 12:02
by Jakob von Schubert
Lidsman wrote:So where is mr Easton, I ask myself, we need your wisdom good sir.

Nah, I can't blame him. This topic has been probably discussed too many times.
And maybe, well, some of my questions may have been too naive and nosey.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 04 Feb 2017 14:01
by swordflasher
Maybe an antique Dutch klewang, if you prefer a shorter more cutlassy alternative to the Infantry officers sword (backsword).

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 04 Feb 2017 15:19
by Lidsman
swordflasher wrote:Maybe an antique Dutch klewang, if you prefer a shorter more cutlassy alternative to the Infantry officers sword (backsword).


The US 1917 cutlass is aparently model after the klewang. I prefer the british cutlass.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 01:27
by swordflasher
Can't say I like the look or handling of British cutlasses myself, but it's a matter of taste I suppose. There used to be an antique weapons shop near the Wallace with a bin full of them.

Mind you I've not handled an antique klewang, I just think they look cool. How do the US ones handle?

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 01:36
by Jakob von Schubert
swordflasher wrote:Maybe an antique Dutch klewang, if you prefer a shorter more cutlassy alternative to the Infantry officers sword (backsword).

The klewang looks pretty top-heavy, again.
What are you guys' thoughts about that anyway: you like the POB near the hilt, or do you not mind your swords being top-heavy?

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 09:02
by Lidsman
swordflasher wrote:Can't say I like the look or handling of British cutlasses myself, but it's a matter of taste I suppose. There used to be an antique weapons shop near the Wallace with a bin full of them.

Mind you I've not handled an antique klewang, I just think they look cool. How do the US ones handle?


I have not handle any of the I just go by the looks :D

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 09:03
by Lidsman
Jakob von Schubert wrote:
swordflasher wrote:Maybe an antique Dutch klewang, if you prefer a shorter more cutlassy alternative to the Infantry officers sword (backsword).

The klewang looks pretty top-heavy, again.
What are you guys' thoughts about that anyway: you like the POB near the hilt, or do you not mind your swords being top-heavy?


Its a matter of context :lol:

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 13:05
by Jakob von Schubert
Lidsman wrote:Its a matter of context :lol:

Oi, but what possible context could ask for a top-heavy sword? The job of a medieval decapitater?
In all other contexts it seems to me that it's better to be able to move the top-part, if not the point, of a sword rather precisely.
And still, there are swords like that klewang. Anyone of you has had any satisfying experiences with top-heavy swords?

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 13:12
by Lidsman
Jakob von Schubert wrote:
Lidsman wrote:Its a matter of context :lol:

Oi, but what possible context could ask for a top-heavy sword?


If you have a shield a top-heavy weapon can't be wrong against unarmored opponents or those wearing mail. Or am I mistaken?

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 15:00
by Jakob von Schubert
Lidsman wrote:If you have a shield a top-heavy weapon can't be wrong against unarmored opponents or those wearing mail. Or am I mistaken?

That's the question to be answered by the veterans around here, I guess.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 15:08
by Jakob von Schubert
However, let me give this discussion a new direction: as of the end of 2016, the beginning of 2017, what is the best standard manufacture these days? I'm not talking about the German masters who forge your individual sword for 1600€, but about the manufacture that'd build you a slightly customized standard.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 16:03
by Lidsman
Jakob von Schubert wrote:However, let me give this discussion a new direction: as of the end of 2016, the beginning of 2017, what is the best standard manufacture these days? I'm not talking about the German masters who forge your individual sword for 1600€, but about the manufacture that'd build you a slightly customized standard.


For your original price rag of about €600? I would say Marco Danelli, Paul Binns and probably a bunch of East-European smiths. For a little bit more I would say Albion.

BUT, the best buy would be an original cutlass/sabre/broadsword/hanger and for €600 you get a lot. An original would allways be better than a copy of the same price.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 21:19
by Jakob von Schubert
Lidsman wrote:BUT, the best buy would be an original cutlass/sabre/broadsword/hanger and for €600 you get a lot.


Hm. What I found was this page, which puts a 1 or 2 in front or even a 0 at the end of my price range.
http://www.albanarms.com/index.php?page ... ean-swords

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 21:38
by Lidsman
Jakob von Schubert wrote:
Lidsman wrote:BUT, the best buy would be an original cutlass/sabre/broadsword/hanger and for €600 you get a lot.


Hm. What I found was this page, which puts a 1 or 2 in front or even a 0 at the end of my price range.
http://www.albanarms.com/index.php?page ... ean-swords


Indeed they do. Well, maybe its only a cutlass or a sabre you can get then but there are a lit of really good sabres out there.

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 05 Feb 2017 21:42
by swordflasher
Search for an antique infantry officers sword [not sabre]. They are mostly straight, and so an affordable backsword.

Such as the one at the beginning of Matt's video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N4eKvVhZvQ


Matt's advice about where to buy antique swords https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iphVHZbUm2w

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 06 Feb 2017 09:19
by Lidsman

Re: Which and by whom is your best functional sword in 2017?

PostPosted: 06 Feb 2017 20:16
by Jakob von Schubert
Yeah, these are quite some examples to consider.