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transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Carletto » 27 Apr 2014 19:27

Hello, I hope this has not been asked before, I searched to see if it had. Now, I would be interested in studies, articles and, if possible, manuals about the transitional rapier, meaning the rapier that had become shorter and lighter but had not become a smallsword yet. My inquires bring me there and I'd like to learn about this fuzzy weapon concept.
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Carletto » 30 Apr 2014 21:43

Nevermind, I guess I found some stuff in the database, after asking Matt Galas some directions :)
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Rob » 01 May 2014 10:59

Sorry, only just saw this. If you havent found it already, try Besnard. There's a translation of part 1 here.
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Carletto » 01 May 2014 20:02

Thanks Rob :)
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Piermarco » 02 May 2014 13:30

I did a couple of transcriptions here:

http://schoolofthesword.com/Christiani% ... iption.pdf

http://schoolofthesword.com/Colombani%2 ... lation.pdf

Outside the Marcelli school & Pallavicini there's also:

Pietro Gorio (1682)
Bondì di Mazo (1696)
Paolo Capodivacca (1704)
Costantino Calarone (1714)
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Carletto » 02 May 2014 19:11

Thanks Pim!
Marcelli seems to be still using a rather long weapon, although the period is exactly the transitional one
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Carletto » 02 May 2014 19:27

I'm saving the documents in a transitional rapier folder, so I don't ask you again (I have the memorry of a squirrel)
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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Reinier » 05 May 2014 09:32

There is a complete set of photos of Di Mazo available. I also have something coming on Gorio (in a few months).

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Re: transitional rapier and manuals?

Postby Carletto » 05 May 2014 20:58

I have Bondi di Mazo, although it seems to be he also uses a fairly big weapon, late rapier yes, midway to smallsword it's probably not.
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