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Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 04 Aug 2012 03:38
by Sean M
Matt asked an interesting question about what HEMA forums are active right now. I wonder too, particularly in languages other than English. One thing that I'm very conscious of is my ignorance of what the continental HEMA community is doing, outside a few people like Mat Gallas or Roland Warzecha. It can also be hard to learn what is happening when one is new to the community, since so much scholarly communication takes place in person or through letters or forum posts. So, I ask you all: what forums in what languages do you sometimes read for material on historical martial arts?

I suggest that we give full names and URLs and a bit about each site's focus so those of us with limited time or limited knowledge of the language in question can see whether a forum sounds interesting. I also suggest we leave out static websites, like the Knights of the Wild Rose edition of the Pissani-Dossi, and ones that are loosely related to historical martial arts, like Douglas Strong's studies of armour in effigies.

Edit: After some thought, I have decided to treat this as a bibliography and avoid comments on my view of the merits of various sites. This doesn't mean that I agree with everything I include in the list, or that I disagree with everything which isn't in the list. I haven't read all of these, let alone all the HEMA sites that exist, and it seems best to cast one's net widely.

Fora and Mailing Lists- English

Blogs- English

Websites- English

Fora- Dutch

Websites- French
  • ARDAMHE http://ardamhe.free.fr/ Sources and handouts on various arts, especially ones from the Germanies/the Liechtenauer tradition.
  • L'Escrime Ancienne http://jfgilles.perso.sfr.fr/escrime/ Jean-Francois Giles maintains this very comprehensive website with a French list of sources.
  • https://www.facebook.com/groups/186544091450281/French Facebook group for medieval wrestling, especially in the Liechtenauer tradition

Fora- French

Fora- Galician and Portugese

Websites- German
  • Die Liechtenauer Fechter http://www.liechtenauer-fechter.at/?page_id=9 Austrian site with a large list of European links, some of which are annotated.
  • Der Fechtsaal http://www.fechtsaal.de/literatur/ Entries for Victorian martial arts, Johannes Lecküchner, Paulus Hector Mair, and Nicholas Petter
  • Hammaborg http://www.hammaborg.de/en/index.php Centred on I.33 but they also do some of the Liechtenauer tradition sources; comprehensive Links page (fairly complete English translation available)
  • Hema-Gruppen in Europa https://maps.google.de/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... 5725a9&z=6 A Google Map maintained by Ars Gladii of European HEMA groups. Each has a dot on the map and a link to its website.
  • Fechtgeschichte http://fechtgeschichte.blogspot.de/ A blog with documents and sources on fencing written in German-speaking lands within the last thousand years (added 2014/08)
  • Fior della Spada http://www.marozzo.info/fior15/index.php German website and forum on the Bolognese tradition. Extensive German translations are publicly available, and a book on the spada sola for sale.
  • Historisches Fechten Westfalen http://hf-westfalen.de/ A versatile association which does I.33, Montante, 16th century German rapier, and the medieval German tradition. They have a forum.
  • Österreichischen Fachverband für Historisches Fechten (Austrian Association for Historical Fencing, more or less) http://www.historisches-fechten.at/ An umbrella group for historical martial arts (but not other sword-related activities such as mock battles) in Austria. Their Research Section (Fachbereich Forschung) maintains a password-protected database of sources, transcriptions, and translations oriented towards the Liechtenauer tradition, but with resources on the Bolognese tradition, Italian rapier, Barbasetti's sabre, Thibault, and Destreza.
  • Philip von Zabern http://www.zabern.de/home/ A German publisher which publishes some HEMA books. So far, they seem to focus on the renaissance German tradition.
  • Wieland-Verlag http://www.wieland-verlag.com/index.php A German publisher which publishes some HEMA books. So far, they seem to focus on the renaissance German tradition. (See “Schwert” and “Messer” on their website).
  • Wiener Fecht- und Ausdauersport Runde (Vienna Martial Arts and Endurance Sport Club) http://www.fechtrunde.at/ An Austrian club which covers a variety of historical martial arts, particularly the longsword teachings of Peter von Danzig, plus modern sports including swimming, running, cycling, and triathalon to build strength and fitness. They seem to do smallsword, wrestling, classical fencing, and modern knife.

Fora- German

Websites- Hungarian

Websites- Italian

Fora- Spanish

Websites- Spanish
  • AGEA Editora: http://www.ageaeditora.com Website and shop for the publishing firm of the AGEA, publishers of Destreza (for the moment) treatises and critical editions. Books are in Spanish and Galician/Portuguese depending on the original author. Website and customer support in either Galician/Portugiese, English or Spanish.

Fora- Swedish

Websites- Swedish
  • Göteborgs Historiska Fäktskola http://ghfs.se/ The Swedish-language website of the Gotheborg Historical Fencing School. Manuals, articles, tournament information particularly on German longsword and Italian rapier.

What other languages: French? Italian? Spanish? Medieval Latin? Zulu? What about other sites where scholarly material on historical martial arts is periodically published?

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 06 Aug 2012 04:35
by Sean M
I'd still be interested in suggestions, especially in other languages (because foreign-language sites are hard to find if you don't know where to look). Michael Chichester has mentioned some in Spanish, and I'm sure there are some in French. French will be the fourth and next language I learn.

The Armour Archive http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/ and WMA Coalition http://www.wmacoalition.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 also have HEMA material now and then. Alex S of the Pacific Northwest blogs on Fiore's art and pollaxe at http://bunkaijuju.blogspot.ca/ .

Hammaborg links to ein deutsches Kampfkunst-Board http://www.kampfkunst-board.info/forum/f65/ which seems reasonably active on a variety of arts.

I will add these to the OP eventually.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 06 Aug 2012 08:58
by SimonL
In French, independant from any groups.
AMHE On Web :
The website (for annonces, event's list, group's map, etc...) : http://www.amheonweb.net
The forum : http://www.amheonweb.net/forum

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2012 00:35
by Sean M
Merci Simon! Peut-etre je lirai le en l'avenir. (I hope I didn't mangle that too badly)

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2012 15:42
by Bulot
In french as well, I think the DTE forum is the biggest french HEMA forum in terms of posts & members, but there have been a lot more activity on AMHEOnWeb recently.

http://de-taille-et-destoc.xooit.com

Apart from the websites you mentioned , Facebook groups are my main source of HEMA-related info and publications.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2012 19:07
by tim_stl
Puck and Mary have a forum now, which is the only one in English that I know of dedicated to Spanish/Iberian fencing: http://destreza.us/forum/

In Spanish, the main one seems to be the Asociacion Española de Esgrima Antigua: http://esgrimaantigua.com/forum/

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 01:09
by Sean M
Gracias, Tim! I just did a big update to the OP, so will wait a few days before adding more sites. I'm sure there are some Italian sites and fora ... the only one I know of is Sala d'Arme Achille Marozzo http://win.achillemarozzo.it/it/index.htm which has closed down most of its material to non-members.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 09 Aug 2012 10:17
by Roger N
HROARR also has a forum mainly dedicated to polearms. It isn't very active currently though, but it is maintained since it contains quite a lot of good stuff and occassionally things are still posted there:

http://www.hroarr.com/forum/

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2012 17:44
by Michael Chidester
Sean M wrote:The HEMA Alliance http://hemaalliance.com/discussion/index.php Focused on renaissance German arts.

The HEMA Alliance forum has a number of active Fiore and Bolognese practitioners as well, and Italian fencing is discussed frequently. In point of fact, of the seven members of the GC, three are German practitioners, two Italian, and two pan-European.

Sean M wrote:Schola Forum

What is this thing?

Sean M wrote:True Edge Academy -> Research and Articles http://trueedgeacademy.com/research.html Contains various essays including Chichester's "Nine Petals of the Flower of Battle"

Oh god, not that thing. I consider that article to be highly out of date.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2012 17:56
by KeithFarrell
The Swedes have a forum here: http://svenskahema.forum24.se/

I don't read that forum as often as I should. It would be good language practice for me so I really should make more of an effort!

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 16 Aug 2012 13:38
by J Marwood
The Bartitsu Society website - www.bartitsu.org
Bartitsu mailing list - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/
Bata list - Irish stick and fist martial arts - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/
Bogatyr list - Eastern European martial arts - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bogatyr/
Classic Pugilism list -http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/classicpugilism/
Western Arts list - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/we ... =332281808
Irish Stick Fighter blog - http://www.irishstickfighter.com/Site_2/Blog/Blog.html

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 16:36
by Sean M
Michael Chidester wrote:
Sean M wrote:The HEMA Alliance http://hemaalliance.com/discussion/index.php Focused on renaissance German arts.

The HEMA Alliance forum has a number of active Fiore and Bolognese practitioners as well, and Italian fencing is discussed frequently. In point of fact, of the seven members of the GC, three are German practitioners, two Italian, and two pan-European.

I go on what I read on the forums, not what home groups are involved in (which I usually don't know). IIn the last page or two of their three main subfora, I see very few threads about arts outside of Germany. I will change the subject to “German martial arts and general issues” since there are a lot of threads about how to train and history there.

Michael Chidester wrote:
Sean M wrote:True Edge Academy -> Research and Articles http://trueedgeacademy.com/research.html Contains various essays including Chichester's "Nine Petals of the Flower of Battle"

Oh god, not that thing. I consider that article to be highly out of date.

So what is your current version? The Wiktenauer page doesn't give a universal system for numbering pictures across MSS, although it does let one see things in parallel.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 16:46
by Michael Chidester
Sean M wrote:
Michael Chidester wrote:
Sean M wrote:True Edge Academy -> Research and Articles http://trueedgeacademy.com/research.html Contains various essays including Chichester's "Nine Petals of the Flower of Battle"

Oh god, not that thing. I consider that article to be highly out of date.

So what is your current version? The Wiktenauer page doesn't give a universal system for numbering pictures across MSS, although it does let one see things in parallel.

Does it not? I don't think there's any information in that little article that's not also present in the wiki article in superior form--unless you mean that German stuff, but in that case the analysis included there is not merely out of date but is downright misleading. Nearly everything that I had to say about it now seems wrong, including a lot of the concordance.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 16:52
by Michael Chidester
Also, while my family did indeed come over from Chichester in Sussex (about a hundred fifty years ago), we use a variant spelling of the surname, "Chidester". As indicated in my username.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 16:56
by Sean M
J Marwood wrote:The Bartitsu Society website - http://www.bartitsu.org
Bartitsu mailing list - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/
Bata list - Irish stick and fist martial arts - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/
Bogatyr list - Eastern European martial arts - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bogatyr/
Classic Pugilism list- http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/classicpugilism/
Western Arts list - http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/we ... =332281808
Irish Stick Fighter blog - http://www.irishstickfighter.com/Site_2/Blog/Blog.html

Ok, I've added them. I wonder if the few non-English suggestions reflect that the English HEMA internet is much bigger than all other languages combined (after all, a lot of native German, French, Finnish, etc. speakers post on English sites) or the demographics of posters on Schola Forum?

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 16:58
by Michael Chidester
English does seem to be the lingua franca of the HEMA community.

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 21:02
by scholadays
Michael Chidester wrote:English does seem to be the lingua franca of the HEMA community.

I see what you did there...

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012 21:55
by Sean M
Michael Chidester wrote:Also, while my family did indeed come over from Chichester in Sussex (about a hundred fifty years ago), we use a variant spelling of the surname, "Chidester". As indicated in my username.

<Bangs his head on the desk> It doesn't help that my fingers want to type "Chidchester", or that I have difficulty reading dark blue poster names on light blue background without enlarging the font. I've corrected the typo and will try not to make it again.

Michael Chidester wrote:English does seem to be the lingua franca of the HEMA community.

I'm not sure that is true, except to the extent that English is the lingua franca of our global civilization. Just like there are many Anglo groups with little web presence, I think there are many continental HEMA groups whose web presence is essentially in their native language (we recently saw that Spanish group which sent over a representative who liked forums and was comfortable in English in order to announce something on the English internet). To find out I would have to work on my German and ask some questions on some of the German boards.

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012 09:39
by Ulrich von L...n
Websites - Hungarian:

Ars Ensis
http://arsensis.hu
(website, small forum, Hungarian)

Kard Rendje (The Order of Sword)
http://kardrendje.hu
(website, Hungarian)

Militia
http://militia.hu
(re-enactor & HEMA forum, Hungarian)

SAGA - Schola Artis Gladii et Armorum
http://www.middleages.hu
(website, database, mostly Hungarian, some English: see below)

Introduction (English):
http://www.middleages.hu/english/martia ... /index.php

Very good treatise / fencing book database (over 2300 entries):
http://www.middleages.hu/english/martia ... tabase.php
(English version)

Re: Main HEMA websites and forums in different languages

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012 17:52
by Sean M
Thank you, Ulrich. I also stumbled across another Italian site, http://www.septemcustodie.it/ , which seems to focus on I.33 and some part of the Liechtenauer tradition.