All I can say is to stop using the wrong shinai.Gordon L wrote:The largest shinai that is lighter than my usual sabre is 400g (Adult woman's 1h or youth 2h).
Gordon L wrote:admin wrote:...makes for a drastically different handling characteristic compared to a real sword.
Well, it's not meant to be a military sabre simulator - military sabres are point-heavy. Chopping heads off at a gallop is a different task to fencing, after all. Then again, the set of 'real swords' is wider than military sabre.
They are simulators of the spadroon, and the successor to the spadroon, the duelling sabre. Some quintessential spadroons are the British infantry officer's swords from either side of the turn of the 1800s.
Mink wrote:It cannot be argued that these weapons are the same.
Mink wrote:I happen to have data about an antique Spadroon.
... than the spadroon... ... with the Spadroon ... that the Spadroon
Gordon L wrote:Mink wrote:It cannot be argued that these weapons are the same.
No one has made the argument. Contrast and compare:
"This is a simulator for X"
"This is the same as X"
But most importantly, not all spadrone are identical.
Gordon L wrote:They are simulators of the spadroon, and the successor to the spadroon, the duelling sabre. Some quintessential spadroons are the British infantry officer's swords from either side of the turn of the 1800s.
Gordon L wrote:I got the idea from the fact that Italian duelling sabre is a late-model spadrone.
And yes, spadroons were both military and civil - in the UK, lighter spadroons were often civilian dress swords for people of a military background, and heavier ones were generally military swords.
That said, Roworth and Taylor's 1804 and 1824 works have spadroon sections, and you'll find them espousing essentially the the same things that Waite espouses in the 1880's, which look remarkable like the sporting sabre of the time, and a long period afterwards.
Even in the 1950's, R&T and Waite's hanging-guard approach is defensive triangle number one of the UK National Training Method.
Thrust to the mune (the leather portion covering the upper chest) was for a while legal if the opponent was in jodan (high guard). It was probably legal if he was a nito player too. The intent of the rule was to discourage jodan which was getting quite popular at the time. It was changed back because it was just too easy to hit and now you have to hit the nodo (the flap hanging down from the men) regardless of your opponents posture.Ulrich von L...n wrote:Do we know why a thrust into the do isn't longer permitted?
By pure luck I have found this very interesting picture on your Facebook page:
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What do we know about it?
NeilG wrote:...now you have to hit the nodo (the flap hanging down from the men) regardless of your opponents posture.
Max C. wrote: This is Mitsuo Maeda - the guy who taught Judo to the Gracies in Brazil - fighting against anonymous sabre fencesr. Maeda is known to have challenged people all around the western world.
Now I understand that kendoka aren't the only JSA people using shinai but the others tend towards things like fukuro shinai which are even heavier.
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