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Fencing guards by European officers - 1805

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2013 17:28
by Max C.
A collection of plates describing the different engaging guards used around Europe in fencing (Austrian, English, French, Russian, Swiss, Italian, Spanish, Prussian).

https://repository.library.brown.edu/st ... dr:249053/
https://repository.library.brown.edu/st ... dr:249054/
https://repository.library.brown.edu/st ... dr:249052/
https://repository.library.brown.edu/st ... dr:249051/

Re: Fencing guards by European officers - 1805

PostPosted: 02 Jun 2014 12:26
by admin
I rather think that this just shows the guards universally used, rather than engaging guards used by different nations per se. The nationalities seem to be to just show the different uniforms, until the Spanish v Italian plate, which does clearly indicate fencing styles.

Then again, it is more or less accurate to show the Frenchman standing in quarte.. though I do not think tierce was particularly English, or half-circle was particularly Austrian. :?:

Re: Fencing guards by European officers - 1805

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2014 06:23
by Max C.
You're most probably right, most of these guards are not really engaging guards anyhow.

Re: Fencing guards by European officers - 1805

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2014 09:43
by Phil C
At first glance it looks consistent with the list of possible guards for use with both the thrusting and cutting swords as detailed by Girard (1736,1740) which seems to be commonly repeated in treatises afterwards (especially people like De Bast for example who took all the oddities from his favourite fencing books and stuck them all together into his appendices).