Traité sur la contrepointe - Valville - 1817


Re: Traité sur la contrepointe - Valville - 1817

Postby Thearos » 29 Jun 2015 00:07

Yes, I noticed that ! Remarkable-- a sort of HEMA in 1817 !
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Re: Traité sur la contrepointe - Valville - 1817

Postby Max C. » 03 Aug 2015 17:47

An English translation is available here: ... ille-1817/
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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 04 Aug 2015 12:13


Thank you very much for the translation, and for making it available.

It is a nicely illustrated fencing book, now fully available and also with the English translation.

I'm really puzzled by the "ancient Slavonic guard". It would be interesting to dig up some background information on the "guard".

"Here I finish my overview of the counter-point, product of a long work. For 30 years I have been practicing weapons, and for 22 years, I am a master, I traveled a lot, from this I know the double stick of the negro to the cudgel of the Scottish Highlander, from the low Neapolitan guard, to the high guard of the Hungarian, from the superb ancient guard of the Slavonians as is represented here, and as I demonstrated it in my grim fight of Fingal, to the modern counter-point, weapon that the great Frederick gave to his troops, and in this moment is the weapon that the Russian officer wears. It is the most terrible bladed weapon after the bayonet, as it unites the point of the sword with the edge of the sabre." ... avonic.jpg
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