Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

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Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

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Re: Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

Postby Rob » 16 Jul 2011 23:19

This appears to be an earlier edition of 1686:

http://www.jeuxdepees.fr/Library/Liancourt/Liancour1686.pdf
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Re: Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

Postby knirirr » 08 Jun 2014 23:01

I've recently put an English translation (with images) by Carlo up on the LSD site:

http://sirwilliamhope.org/Library/Liancour/
"FOR, to my certain knowledge I can affirm, that no People in the World, have a swifter Hand in Thrusting, nor any, a more loose or uncertain Parade, than the French."
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Re: Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

Postby Reinier » 09 Jun 2014 08:33

From the doc I understand that this is the translation by Elise Darchis, but with images, correct? Or is this a new translation?

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…en A alſoo liggende kan aen B, ſonder eenigh beletſel, met de zijde van ſijn hooft, op het aengeſicht van B, ſoo veel ſtoten als hy begeert. – Nicolaes Petter, 1674.

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Re: Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

Postby knirirr » 09 Jun 2014 08:35

Reinier wrote:From the doc I understand that this is the translation by Elise Darchis, but with images, correct? Or is this a new translation?


I think that it's the former.
"FOR, to my certain knowledge I can affirm, that no People in the World, have a swifter Hand in Thrusting, nor any, a more loose or uncertain Parade, than the French."
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Re: Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

Postby Dave B » 18 Oct 2014 13:35

Yep, it's clearly the same translation. It's good, but there are the same couple of mistranslations (to my mind) where the modern french to english translation has been used of a specialist or oddly used french word, or the difficult word has been left untranslated- for example:

. To test the quality, one will do well to inspect it from all aspects, from point to Soie, on the Arrete and within ,if it only has three squares and above both arretes if it has four to see if there is no Paille.

Seemed confusing to me. My sister (who lectures of french medieval and renaissance literature), translated this as follows, using a period french english dictionary for the technical terms:

to find out how good it is, it is useful to look at it all over, from the point to the tang, on top of the crest, and on the underside if the blade only has three edges, and above the two crests if the blade has four edges, to see that there is no flaw.

Which makes a bit more sense.

Ideally this particular page could also to with a footnote where it says:Having talked about the properties of the Guard, it is presently necessary to say of the Blade, that at will one may choose it to be of a length of 2.5ft, 3 at the most. to say that a french foot of the period was a little over 13 english inches. So he's actually saying 32 to 39 inches, not 30 to 36.

It's a good working document though.
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Re: Le Maitre D'Armes - Liancour - 1692

Postby Michael Chidester » 19 Oct 2014 01:18

Color scans of the 1686 edition: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8606994k
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